Regency vs. Victorian Ultimate SMACKDOWN!
Ash: Greetings, and welcome today. I’m very excited because my debut is coming out tomorrow, and…
Jen: Good day, your grace. What are you doing here?
Ash: Oh, you’ve heard. It’s the day before my book release. It’s called A Most Scandalous Proposal. Thank you for dropping by to congratulate me. *smile smile*
Jen: Erm, actually… It’s the day before my book releases, too.
Ash: Really? We are both debut authors, both duchesses, both 2011 Golden Heart® finalists, and our books are coming out the same day? Seems like we might have planned that a little better.
Jen: Oh, I don’t know. I think I can take you on.
Ash: What’s your book about?
Jen: It’s a historical version of the good old “she woke up married story” called What Happens in Scotland. It’s set in the Victorian era, and—
Ash: *sniffs* Victorian.
Jen: Yes. Victorian. Does your grace have a problem with that?
Ash: No, not at all. Only. *crosses arms* The Victorian era is just so depressing with all its fascination with death and séances and don’t get me started on the morals. Not like the Regency with its endless parties. Why a girl could get away with a little scandal back then if she was careful.
Jen: You don’t think they had scandals in the Victorian era? Hrmph. Not sure I agree with that. After all, the electromechanical vibrator was invented in 1880.
Ash: Electromechanical? Sounds positively dangerous. Not to mention these things seem like they would be more fun with an actual hero around. In the flesh, as it were.
Jen: Well, I would argue it’s far more enjoyable to be scandalous in the flesh when you have the means to indoor plumbing. Hygiene is so necessary to the process.
Ash: Oh, yes, let’s talk about the necessary.
Jen: No, not the necessary… Well, I suppose the Victorian era did see the invention of flush toilets, also known as water closets. Unlike the dreary chamber pots of the Regency. Although, I do have a chamber pot that features quite prominently in my opening scene for What Happens in Scotland…
Ash: That sounds disgusting, not scandalous.
Jen: Well, I didn’t say what they do with the chamber pot. It’s not what you think.
Ash: You needn’t sound so imperious about the advantages of the water closet, you know. Some houses during the Regency did possess a manner of indoor plumbing.
Jen: Perhaps… for those who were rich enough. But the Victorian area also ushered in a new awareness of social causes. The point wasn’t to only improve the lives of the wealthy. Unlike the Regency era, which was mainly one long exercise in frivolity, in my time period social causes were a hallmark of—
Ash: *yawns* Well, enough of this tedious topic. Let’s talk about what’s really important.
Jen: What’s more important than public health? (Points out to the good readers she works for the Centers for Disease Control)
Ash: To a duchess? Fashion, of course. *nods emphatically*
Jen: *choking* Fashion?
Ash: Naturally. And while we’re discussing such low matters, might I mention a woman’s unmentionables?
Jen: I don’t think the Victorians liked to mention those.
Ash: You’re all about health, right? So tell me, which would you rather wear? This?
Or something you can actually breathe in?
Jen: Umm… I may have to concede this point. But let’s talk about what you must wear over top of that. Speaking of disgusting… it looks like she is wearing one of those modern-day veterinary cones around her neck. And don’t get me started on the way the Regency skirts make a girl look like she had man-thighs….
Ash: Man thighs? That lady has a man’s face as well. Are you sure she’s not a Regency drag queen? Anyway, I’ll see that fashion plate and raise you this one.
Who wants to wear all that fabric? Especially when it looks as if it might serve better as upholstery? You know when Scarlett O’Hara made that ensemble out of the drapes, she probably didn’t have too many people on the street giving her the side-eye, because all the other ladies were wearing something similar. And I have more where that came from. The Two Nerdy History Girls have an entire board on Pinterest devoted to it.
Jen: Care to put your fashion where your mouth is? Let’s compare book covers. I feel quite sure my heroine’s dress will make yours look positively dowdy in comparison.
Ash: I don’t think so!
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Jen: As you can see the dress on my cover looks nothing like those silly dresses you just showed…
Ash: And neither does mine.
Both: *peer carefully at the covers*
Jen: Well, my cover model is prettier than yours.
Ash: How can you say that? They look just alike! Actually… are they…? They are. They are wearing the same dress. In fact, I think it’s the same model.
Jen: No!
Ash: I think so. *nods* I guess that solves it. My book is better, because the heroine is only two and twenty years old. That means she must be old enough to be a great-grandmother in your book.
Jen: *gasps* I don’t think people lived long enough to be great-grandmothers in the Victorian era between the pollution and the lead poisoning…
Ash: There you have it then. My book must be better. *crosses arms for emphasis* My heroine is alive.
What Happens In Scotland
When recent widow Georgette Thorold wakes up in a Scottish inn with a wedding ring on her finger and lacking all memory of how she came to be there, she does what any well-bred lady with a modicum of sense and a distrust of marriage would do: she panics, clocks the wickedly handsome stranger in her bed over the head with a chamber pot, and runs.
James McKenzie, Esquire has either spent the evening protecting a very naïve, and—dare he say it—very drunk young lady from the advances of every disreputable character in the town of Moraig, or he has gone and married a pretty, scheming thief. Not that his own head is entirely clear on the matter, but when the woman in question repays his kindness with a knock on the head, the bill for her room, and the theft of his purse, an embarrassed James is determined to track her down and show her she picked the wrong solicitor to swindle.
As Georgette sets out to discover exactly what happened during her forgotten night, she uncovers a man that seems far more a hero than a rake. But when they finally meet, instead of sweeping her into his arms and kissing her senseless, he serves her with a summons, claiming she is a thief. Now the fight is on, and the only question is was it a night worth remembering? Or a mistake they would both rather forget?
Jennifer McQuiston: Website Facebook Twitter Book Trailer
A Most Scandalous Proposal
After watching her beloved sister Sophia pine over the ton’s Golden Boy for years, Miss Julia St. Claire has foresworn love and put herself firmly on the shelf. Unfortunately, her social-climbing mother and debt-ridden father have other ideas, and jump at the chance to marry Julia off to the newly-named Earl of Clivesden…the man of Sophia’s dreams.
Since resigning his Cavalry commission, Benedict Revelstoke has spent his time in London avoiding the marriage mart. But when he discovers that the Earl of Clivesden has set Julia in his sights, Benedict tries to protect his childhood best friend from the man’s advances—only to discover more than friendship driving his desire to defend her. He surprises them both with the force of his feelings, but when she refuses him and her father announces her betrothal, he fears he’s lost her forever—until Julia approaches him with a shocking scheme that will ruin her for all respectable society…
…and lead them into an exquisite world of forbidden pleasures.
Ashlyn Macnamara: Website Facebook Twitter Book Trailer (absolutely does NOT contain similar footage to Jen’s. Nope, not at all.
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What say you readers? Which era wins the battle? Or do you prefer another era entirely? Tell us why. Jen and Ash will each choose a commenter at random to receive the prizes they have prepared.
Jen: My prize will be much nicer than Ash’s. To celebrate the release of my book, I am giving away a What Happens in Scotland gift basket, including CD of Highland Music, a bag of authentic Haggis-flavored potato chips, a sample of Highland Park whisky (yes, that is spelled the Scottish way!) and a copy of my book!
Ash: I beg your pardon. I am giving away a copy of my book as well as a DVD copy of Pride and Prejudice (Colin Firth version, naturally). And Colin in that wet shirt, my dears, is priceless.
Ash feels the need to state for the record that the above argument was held with her virtual tongue placed firmly in her cheek, and she really doesn’t have any objections to such modern conveniences as flush toilets, hygiene, or even vibrators.
Jen feels the need to state she enjoys the good Regency romp as much as the next reader. And who doesn’t like a good vibrator?

































I am going to go first… I cannot believe Ashlyn tagged vibrators for this post. Cannot. Believe it.
Just another reason the Regency is better. You’re allowed to be a little bit naughty in public.
You ladies are better than coffee.
(But not vibrators. Sorry.)
Hah! Now that would be a goal in life–to be better than vibrators. Difficult to achieve, perhaps, but a goal nonetheless.
Thanks for the laugh, guys — and congrats on your debuts. They both look great. I like reading Regency stories, but Victorians are my first love. (Credit Christina Dodd’s governess series …)
Besides, the era that gave us the vibrator deserves mad props. Am I right?
Arlene, you are SO right!!! One of the things I love so much about the Victorian era is that the new prudish social expectations made passion something that had to go underground… which makes it tons of fun to write about. Thanks for stopping by!
I may give you a pass this time–but only because of the vibrator.
Regency. But I’m biased. Though, yes, props to the Victorians.
Congrats on the debuts, Duchesses!
I cannot even talk to you right now.
*bows* You come over and stand by me. On the fun side of the room.
Congrats ladies. I’m off to order both of these books. If they’re half as witty and amusing as their authors, I can’t miss! Oh, and I’m partial to the Regency. Although the Victorians did have better…um…toys.
I say it is entirely duchess like, simply because duchesses can do anything they like.
Thanks. I have to say this post was great fun to put together, and I’ve been anticipating it for *weeks* now.
Re-gen-cy! Re-gen-cy! I’m not wearing a bustle for anybody! Though, admittedly, the plumbing and trains would have been nice. You two crack me up and I am rushing off to Barnes and Noble tomorrow to score both of these fabulous debuts!
But your grace, our era did have trains. They were just on ladies’ skirts!
I thought that is what Val meant. Ha. I so was not thinking about trains like machines. Caught up in fashion…
You two ladies are so funny! I laughed at the dialogue. OK. I honestly cannot choose because I love both the Victorian and the Regency eras. I’ve read many good books written in both eras and love them all.
Now, no more fighting!
Connie Fischer
conniecape@aol.com
See, you’re perfect for us. You’re likely to buy all our books. *grin*
You know… 1830-1840 kind of straddles that delicate line between true Regency and the Victorian era…
That king, what’s his name, was at the throne. William something or other. Noone ever cared enough about him to name an era after him. Surely he represents a fine compromise to this debate…
William IV. And I’m considering writing something in this era eventually. Kind of a next generation thing. I’ve got a plot idea that would be perfect for a character who is still a child in my current work.
Love it! How could anyone choose? Thank goodness we can all just run out and snatch up both of these books.
If we’re being honest, I can’t choose, either. Some of my favorite authors write Victorian, and I can’t wait to read Jen’s book.
*blinks eyes innocently* Not that a Duchess would ever do anything so gauche as to ASK people to buy her book… but you know, if you want to….
You ladies are great. I am going to say that I honestly have both of these books on my wish list @ Amazon. Thanks for the great post and I can’t wait to read these.
sheryll1974@netscape.net
Thank you! As I just commented, I’ve got Jen’s book on my list, too. Right to the top of my TBR pile as soon as it arrives.
I likewise have Ash’s pre-ordered on my Nook. The reviews for her debut are glowing… how could I NOT jump on a trip into the world of Regency to indulge my love of a great story?
Thanks for dropping into the middle of historical Fight Club, Sheryl N!
Both books sound fabulous–loved the trailers, too, on YouTube! I started out reading only Regency era historical romances, but some great authors set their romances in the Victorian era (Sherry Thomas, & Lorraine Heath, for example) so I’m enjoying both now. I also like those set in the late 1700s as well. If it’s a well written story, I’m there, no matter the era. I love history and I love romance so it’s a perfect combination.
I am actually with you on this. As long as it’s well written and carries me off to another time period, I am a happy camper.
Sigh. This Duchess must abandon this fun and trudge to work. Rest assured I shall return on my lunch break!
This is just like being at my house – listening to two girls bickering! But this banter was far more entertaining!! Thank you for a lovely start to my day. And since I’ve received my amazon notice that both books are on the way, I know what I’ll be doing for the rest of this week! Reading! Even though I’ve had the immense pleaure of reading advanced copies of both, and I already KNOW that both books are equally fabulous!!
Awww, thank you! Even if we do remind you of a couple of kids. At my age, if I can be mistaken for someone younger, I’ll take it!
It’s good to know folks find the friendly rivalry encouraging instead of off-putting… we have tried very hard not to draw blood.
Love the Regency and Victorian eras equally! But also really like the Edwardian era, what with the scandalous King Edward VII on the throne.
And the Colin Firth P&P is not to be missed!
You have to wonder with the popularity of Downton Abbey if we won’t soon be seeing more Edwardian era romances. I’d be up to read a few!
Also feeling the love for the Edwardian era!
I daresay this post had me LOLing.
Congratulations to both of you on the upcoming releases of both your books (with the same cover model) that I can’t wait to read!!! That comic about the Victorian ladies laughing at the Regency attire was too funny – loved this post!!
We had so much fun writing it. Hope you enjoy both books!
Ash seems to have the eye for these things – she saw the resemblance in our cover models first!
Congrats Ashlyn & Jennifer on the release of your books. They both look yummy. Tisn’t fair of Ashlyn to dangle Colin Firth in front of us all. That’s underhand bribery! What self respecting red blooded female could resist that?!
I’d have to read both of them cover to cover to decide. Probably reread the steamy scenes. One must ensure that one doesn’t miss any pertinent details….
Hah! I really like the way you think! Thanks for dropping by.
“probably reread the steamy scenes. Musn’t miss any pertinent details.”
Hear hear! Words to live by, no matter the era they describe!
Hilarious post! Congrats to both of you on the release of your debuts tomorrow!
Like so many others here, I can’t pick between Regency and Victorian-I love books set in both eras, though the bulk of the historicals I read are Regency. It started me thinking about all the medieval romances that were all the rage in the 90s. What happened to them? Did their time pass and go, and they just simply lost popularity? Are there still authors writing in the era?
Some of us here write in that era. I started reading historical romance in the 80s when the time periods and settings weren’t so confined. I loved the variety you saw even from individual authors back then.
Duchess Tracy Brogan has a wonderful medieval titled ‘Highland Surrender’. And guest Kris Kennedy is a fav of many of us.
Congratulations, Lisa! Random.org has chosen you as the winner of my book and COLIN! I will be emailing your for your mailing address.
It’s so hard to pick one. Regency was so wild- kind of like the Swinging 60′s I’m thinking,anything goes. Victorian was so prudish and so naughty. Can’t decide.
Thankfully, you don’t actually have to! Thanks for dropping by!
I lean toward Regency- just a bit more gay in the traditional use of the word- but truly I enjoy them both.
I have preordered both books but will put my hat in the ring for the whisky!
And I should add a hearty congratulations to you both!!!
Aw, thanks! I hope you enjoy!
Just popping in and reading all the comments on my lunch break. Ash says my book arrived in her mail today… so… surprise! I guess “official” release days are open for interpretation.

Hope everyone is having a fabulous day… will pop in when I can stay longer this evening. The day job is killing this Duchess.
I’ve ordered both books and can’t wait to read them both. Any my excitement is equal between the two of you in spite of the fact I may prefer one time period over the other. But no way am I admitting which one!
I loved the post and think you should turn it into an RWA conference talk!
Congratulations to both of you. Two more Starcatchers achieve their dreams!
Thank you! And wow, having this as a panel is a great idea. Maybe more for RT than RWA, though. Jen, what do you think? We’re too late for this year, but next?
I can be there… should we box in evening gloves???
Yes, and pearls!
Oh my goodness, you’re both terrific, but I have to say … Colin Firth … Jane Austen … all my life I’ve wanted to BE Elizabeth Bennett. And I can no longer play my old VCR copies on my broken, no longer parts available VCR machine. So, the only way to get my fix would be to win that DVD copy that Ash is giving away. Whisky is nice however you spell it, but Mr. Darcy IS PRICELESS. LOL. So, I must vote Regency, lovely ladies.
Much success for both your books and congratulations on a post full of fun and whimsy!
XO
I have to say, I love your reasoning here. My the randomness gods be good to you when it comes time to choose winners!
Diana, I do indeed understand. But I am offering WHISKY, you see, with my gift basket. Which has the potential to make any man look like Colin Firth.
I want to like this comment like on Facebook. Sadly I cannot do that here.
Sorry, I don’t need whisky — my husband already looks like Colin Firth. LOL. Of course, it took my neighbor to point it out to me. We never see what is right under our noses, do we? All I ever see is the man I absolutely love.
But darn it, I really want that DVD. My husband looks like OLD Colin Firth — and he never takes a bath, or wears those sexy white stockings. Which means Regency is better because you can see a man’s legs — yum. Even the Victorian Scots wore pants — when they weren’t wearing their kilts, of course!
XO
Well, I have to say, it’s a toss up here, ladies! I love me a good read and these two have to be!
Congratulations to both of you for wonderful debuts and a most enjoyable ‘fight’. I’d say it’s a draw.
Thanks, Kathleen! I’m surprised you didn’t put in for Victorian era since that’s what you write!
I have a feeling it’s a reflection of Kathleen’s excellent tastes that she prefers to keep mum on the subject and write about the Victorian era.
Just saying…
Regency! But I agree, having to choose between a real toilet and being comfortable is really hard. You ladies are hilarious! I can’t wait to get my hands on your debuts. Hurry up, UPS Guy!
Thankfully we live in a time period where we don’t have to make that choice. Hope you enjoy the books!
Actually, I must confess, I am teasing. The books look wonderful and I purchased them both. And yes, I do love Victorian, too — But the dresses on both your covers beat Regency and Victorian by miles! LOL.
Congratulations ladies. I know it’s the beginning of something wonderful for both of you. I send great big hugs to both my Golden Heart Sisters!
XO
Don’t worry about the old Colin Firth Diana… whisky will totally fix that pesky problem right up!
I loved the smackdown! I’ll read anything (and I plan to buy BOTH your books to stop the bickering LOL) but my favorite time period id medieval. That’s romance book medieval, since I really do enjoy bathing in real life.
*Marcy steps into the medieval corner by herself*
You’re not in a corner by yourself at all. Duchess Tracy writes medieval, and so does Duchess Madeline. You’re in excellent company.
Oh yes, Medieval is a welcome third-comer to the debate… Madeline Hunter’s medieval romances are just to die for.
Congratulations, Marcy! Random.org has picked you as Jen’s winner. She will be contacting you for mailing information!
Congrats, both of you on your debuts! I’m a late Victorian, early Edwardian girl myself, but I’ll take any time period. I’ll just picture it as hygenic.
Two more Starcatchers in print!
Picturing it as hygenic. Sounds like a plan. Thanks for the congratulations!
Kate! *kisses both cheeks* My corner was feeling empty, but you have filled it with awesomeness.
Happy release day, Ash and Jen! Loved this post and I know I’ll love your debuts!
Thank you so much Anne! I think Ash and I both agree there is room to quibble, as long as folks read about both.
Thank you, and I actually agree with Jen here. If people ready both, that makes us happy!
Congrats on your debuts! Oh my, who can choose. I love the Regency, but there are so many great stories set in the Victorian era lately, I just can’t choose. The books sound so wonderful, I want to read them both.
Clearly a smart woman. Why choose when you don’t have to?
Yep, agree with Jen. Read ‘em both! Thanks for dropping by!
Regency for the plumbing
Now, now, no need to yank. Romans had plumbing, after all. It’s not like plumbing was an exclusively Victorian invention.
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Congrats Marcy Shuler, who clearly won the BETTER of the two gifts on offer! We all know where we can get some haggis chips, whisky, and a copy of What Happens in Scotland… the party is at Marcy’s house.
Yea! Whisky and Haggis chips! MmMmMm…can it any better than this? Why, yes it can. I also get a great book (thanks, Jen!) and a CD of Highland music to imagine kilted men dancing. *sigh*
I emailed you, Jen. <3
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